Magnets & 2.4 GHz Receivers

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20 Feb 2020 10:59 #21702 by 4Pedalsfly
Magnets & 2.4 GHz Receivers was created by 4Pedalsfly
The battery hatch on my latest project is held in place by 6mm dia magnets.
I'm now finalising the position of the receiver and am concerned that the relative
proximity of receiver / aerial / magnets my a cause a problem - advice please.

Pic attached.

Thanks

Colin.

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20 Feb 2020 11:51 #21704 by JRI
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Static magnets will not have any detremental affect. The proximity of the UBEC to the Rx is a different matter as it uses high frequency switching to chop the voltage!

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20 Feb 2020 13:19 #21705 by MikeSeale
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I agree with JRI regarding the magnets and would add that the high frequency switching should of the regulator should not be a problem either. High frequency switching used to interfere with 35MHz receivers but Gigahertz receivers will filter lower frequencies as if they are not there.

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20 Feb 2020 15:57 #21706 by 4Pedalsfly
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John & Mike - Thanks for your comments I can now fit a tray & "Velcro" the receiver in place.
When using 35MHz I had interference problems with a Twin Otter which was put down to a "Dirty" E.S.C,
replaced one, problem solved.

Colin.

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20 Feb 2020 16:03 #21707 by JRI
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Mike has far more experience with radio gubbery than I do, but my observation about the UBEC proximity to the Rx is based on the technology of "chopping" dc as part of the process of up/down-volting. If the UBEC does hard switching of the dc then the resulting leading and trailing edges of the chopped waveform can contain a very wide range of harmonics; these can generate electromagnetic radiation or pulses of current that interfere with other nearby circuits, causing noise or errors (hence the ferrite ring usually seen on the output of the UBEC). I am not an authority, just cautious.

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20 Feb 2020 18:00 #21708 by Phil Ford
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Yes Mike and John. The ferrite ring does the job of suppressing harmonic noise in the lead. always best policy to keep any switching regulators as far away as possible. Some of the upmarket switching regulators do have some filter components. Linear regulators (generally low current/cheap ones) are not normally any problem, they just waste the excess voltage/current as heat. If it was not for the simple ferrite ring we would be fitting another device/circuit board with capacitors and LC filters on the output lead

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20 Feb 2020 23:06 - 20 Feb 2020 23:08 #21711 by 4Pedalsfly
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Thanks All for additional comments - pic of final installation attached.
The ferrite ring for the Ubec was supplied loose in the packet so the unwary
could easily omit fitting it, the other ferrite ring is on the E.S.C. lead.
I will check to ensure there are no interference issues before maiden flight.

Colin.
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21 Feb 2020 18:24 #21715 by DaveBright
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Careful of your Velcro polarisation too. Has to be furry bottom on the receiver otherwise the 2.4Ghz will have a dead spot directly under the receiver.

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21 Feb 2020 20:37 - 21 Feb 2020 20:39 #21717 by JRI
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DaveBright wrote: Careful of your Velcro polarisation too. Has to be furry bottom on the receiver otherwise the 2.4Ghz will have a dead spot directly under the receiver.

Or use a "furrite" ring to neutralise any stray "velcrons" :dry:
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22 Feb 2020 13:17 #21721 by kevinross
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JRI wrote:

DaveBright wrote: Careful of your Velcro polarisation too. Has to be furry bottom on the receiver otherwise the 2.4Ghz will have a dead spot directly under the receiver.

Or use a "furrite" ring to neutralise any stray "velcrons" :dry:


"Velcrons" - thats a whole new subject but at least they have Wings and Antennae

shishenyunewworld.wordpress.com/velcrons/

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