Pilot RC Extra Convert from EP to IC

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19 Oct 2020 16:06 - 19 Oct 2020 16:09 #23489 by Phil Ford
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Quite a while ago when our Summer's were long and warm my Wots Wot was powered by electric, five cell the biggest that it would take. It flew very well but became boring and a pain having to invert to slide battery out. I, then to many members disgust converted it to glow, a nice four stroke and never looked back. A Bipe with throbbing four stroke. :)

I may have mentioned this to quite few of you recently, well moaning actually about the lack of decent lipos and the fact that prices have leapt up by around 25% and much more at HKing. Now you may be okay for 3 and 4 cells but if you want big 6 cell packs it is going to cost you. I need 10 cells or 12 cells for my Extra 300 because the one set I have is dying and to buy top notch ones like Gens-Ace, Admiral or Overlander is going to be eye-watering to me. (got to be careful with cash) Say two pairs of 6 cells would come out at £400. :whistle: I have been considering this for some time and which is why I am saying bye bye to large electric and converting the Extra to petrol. My favourite engine the OS 33GT I could only find at Modelshop Leeds (one in stock) but over the weekend someone snapped it up.:( Next option and highly rated is the GP38 and I have grabbed one from Probuild.

Do you think electric cars will go the same way?:lol: :silly:
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19 Oct 2020 16:46 #23490 by kevinross
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I assume your talking about the XL version.

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19 Oct 2020 17:26 - 19 Oct 2020 17:26 #23491 by Phil Ford
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Read carefully Kevin. ;) The Wots Wot was just an intro. Some think it strange to go IC when you have clean, quiet electric. I am talking about the Pilot RC Extra 300 - 73
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21 Oct 2020 15:50 - 21 Oct 2020 16:13 #23517 by Phil Ford
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Removed the motor and ESC today. Thought this will be quick n easy conversion. Re-drill for GP38 engine mountings. Not so! :( Unlike DLE the carb body extends past the end of the stand-offs. This will require jig sawing out at least to my pen lines. I also think that as the throttle arm is downwards it is going to line up with the floor of the engine box. In limbo now........

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21 Oct 2020 16:15 - 21 Oct 2020 16:17 #23518 by Phil Ford
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And there is more......... GP and Pilot RC have been promoting the Laser 73 and the GP38 together. According to the images the Laser has to be cut out also. Although the images show no stand-offs just an extended engine box.

If I carry on with this particular conversion I think I would have to beef up the engine box too with ally angle because there is not a lot of wood left.....
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21 Oct 2020 18:13 - 21 Oct 2020 18:14 #23519 by Phil Ford
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Mulled over it for a few hours and thought, "what the hell". Jigsaw, wood chisels and the engine now bolts on. Time to tidy up and make up some metal plates to reinforce the firewall as some of the fillets will have been partly cut away. Noticed that on the newer version of the Pilot RC Extra 73 they have used metal angles rather relying on fillets.
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21 Oct 2020 19:44 #23520 by kevinross
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The member who also bought a GP 38 from probuild had similar problems and had to make longer stand offs to clear the carb. -
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22 Oct 2020 12:02 - 27 Oct 2020 10:14 #23528 by Phil Ford
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Today I have had to nibble the out the fillets internally just enough to allow for the flat washers to sit flat inside the firewall. Then finding I have to cut away a bit more carb hole to allow for throttle/choke linkage exits. Progress is that the engine will fit on the firewall so now I have added some glassing over all the joints. Meanwhile, waiting on the glue to set, make up some servo mountings for the throttle and choke. Unlike my other DLE/OS converts the GP choke cannot be accessed using a rod coming forward into the cowl so it has to be servo operated internally.

I have changed the title to suit the story. ;)
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22 Oct 2020 12:11 - 22 Oct 2020 12:14 #23529 by Phil Ford
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Kevin Ross wrote: The member who also bought a GP 38 from probuild had similar problems and had to make longer stand offs to clear the carb. -


That may be okay if you can move the cowl forward say 15mm but my Extra's cowl is internally bolted so no adjustment. However, I did check that the prop drive does just clear the cowl. Don't want the prop spinner back-plate stuck out 1/2 inch, :whistle: but if it was short then longer spacers is easy way out.
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22 Oct 2020 14:58 - 23 Oct 2020 16:34 #23534 by Phil Ford
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After a fair bit of Dremel (I mean Parkside - Lidl) cutting and sanding the cowl fits neatly round the engine. Had to lop off 20mm from the muffler pipes to get the cowl.on. Now back on making a servo mount for the throttle which should be fun as a nice line from the throttle lever align with the edge of the tank. That was well thought out GP, having the carb mounted that way down.:dry: The choke control may be even more fun........

I made some fair comments regarding the carb issue and Great Power deleted my post. :huh: Not interested in feedback for new product?
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