To crimp or not to crimp...

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13 Dec 2017 19:54 #14985 by Chris001
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In my vast experience (most of which is questionable) I have yet to find an Aileron servo with the correct length lead attached! This uncomfortable situation inevitably gets resolved by added and extension lead and securing it with heat shrink. On my current project I built the extension lead into the wing, but now I have a lump of plastic and excess wire in the servo area, alas the hole for the servo lead is not big enough for the connector and excess wire to pass through. So I'm thinking of cutting off the offending plastic on both and joining them.

So here's the thing, I've always looked down on crimped connections, believing that soldering has to be better, I have to confess I have no idea when or where I developed my distain for crimps... But I've recently discovered that crimping is actually not a bad method assuming you can make a good job of it.

So I was wondering if you can get crimps for joining wires? Or are they just the purview of the terminal end?

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13 Dec 2017 21:20 #14986 by Chris73
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What about removing the plastic housing from a normal servo connector, so you are only using the metal pins and a small piece of heat shrink over each pin

If you staggered the joint it wouldn't be much thicker than the cable

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13 Dec 2017 22:20 #14987 by kevinross
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Although crimped connectors are now the norm in industry (including full size aviation) they do require specific tooling and procedures to provide consistent reliability but can be accomplished by lower skilled people. whereas consistency by soldering requires higher skills. In my opinion neither is more reliable when carried out correctly.

Ive been extending servo leads by soldering extensions between the servo and the original crimped plug for many years and never had a failure. I can't imagine A guy with your skills could not make reliable soldered connections. Whatever your decision, staggering aa Chris 73 suggests makes for a neater less obtrusive join.

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13 Dec 2017 22:31 #14988 by DavidTappin
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Kevin said he'd been

soldering extensions between the servo and the original crimped plug for many years and never had a failure

I was just about to post exactly the same comment, customise your cabling this way and end up with exactly what you want and no excess of servo cable to tuck away out of sight to tidy things up. I use a simple soldered lay-on joint with each joint shrink wrapped then the whole cluster of three joints shrink wrapped to provide additional strain relief.

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14 Dec 2017 09:33 - 14 Dec 2017 09:36 #14992 by Phil Ford
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Crimping is the norm nowadays albeit clever machines do it quickly and efficiently whereas us humans have to use the hand tool. A bit fiddly and quite few terminals wasted until you attain a sort of mastery of the crimp. :lol: My biggest beef is getting the crimp right but finding the pins has distorted oh so very slightly making it near on impossible to fully insert into the servo plug without meticulous straightening of the pin.

Fortunately the servo plugs whether female or male use a standard 2.5mm pcb spacing (and battery balance leads) which opens up all sorts of possibilities.

Bought a whole roll of 22swg servo wire off Ebay for reasonable money. Many years worth of custom made leads. Pins and plugs from RS.
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14 Dec 2017 20:34 #14994 by Chris001
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Thank you, great advice, I'll solder in an extension bit of wire as suggested.

I do have a crimping device similar to the one you show Phil, but I've yet to even do a test crimp with it. On the Atlas each retract ended up with three extension leads and I consider each connection a potential failure point, so I was already gearing up to try and make the next installation much neater with just the right length wires. (I should point out that one of the extensions for the retracts had a voltage regulator in it)

Thanks again

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14 Dec 2017 20:36 - 14 Dec 2017 20:39 #14995 by AlanF
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I think I would heat shrink each wire before adding the final heat shrink and I'd interleave the strands of each wire rather than butt solder but here is a simple howto vid.

Do a test on a some bits of scrap first, check it doesn't all come apart after a good tug. oh and use decent wire strippers

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