Electric pump

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16 Oct 2015 09:13 #6526 by Adrian
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I like the idea of the air pressure especially as you have a compressor for the retracts anyway.

only concern is what pressure (if any) are those jerrycans rated for and what is their mode of failure? will it just spring a leak or will it tear and fail suddenly with a large amount of highly flammable liquid floating around?

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16 Oct 2015 09:43 - 16 Oct 2015 09:56 #6530 by ronp849
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This was not my original idea - My son used it for filling wing tanks with petrol on his FoxKit plane. (Full size). With the jerrycan on the ground, he generated a 7ft head with no ill effect.

The pump was a mains driven air pump intended for a Koi fish pond.

Just Googled the idea - Search for Polarn Pump.
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16 Oct 2015 10:52 #6531 by Chris73
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I have been using the Kavan pump in my fuel can for about a year now without any issues (I know i shouldn't have said that :dry: )

Even if the seals do start leaking they are only a few pounds for a complete set, i was advised to run the pump in reverse at the end of the flying sessions so there is no fuel left in the pump, seems to have worked so far :)

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16 Oct 2015 13:18 #6537 by MikeSeale
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Re. using air pressure to fill a tank...

I know this is being asked in terms of pumping kerosene, but would remind people of the dangers of methanol in your eyes...it can cause blindness. I do not know whether kerosene or petrol have similar hazards. The risk of a pressurised tank surely cannot be worth considering when we have conventional pumps available, even if they do need a little maintenance from time to time?

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16 Oct 2015 14:43 #6538 by ronp849
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MikeSeale wrote: Re. using air pressure to fill a tank...

I know this is being asked in terms of pumping kerosene, but would remind people of the dangers of methanol in your eyes...it can cause blindness. I do not know whether kerosene or petrol have similar hazards. The risk of a pressurised tank surely cannot be worth considering when we have conventional pumps available, even if they do need a little maintenance from time to time?



Hi Mike - I agree with the dangers of methanol but I would think the output pressure of a standard motorised pump would be far greater than that of a pressurised tank. The pressure generated by a fuel pump would be uncontrolled and unknown so the possibility of a fuel line popping off an inline filter or filling adaptor would be greater. The flow rate from the Jerrycan would be increased by using a larger bore tube which would allow a low air pressure to be used.

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16 Oct 2015 16:35 #6540 by MikeSeale
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I've said my piece and do not intend trying to justify the advice offered

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16 Oct 2015 20:39 - 16 Oct 2015 20:42 #6546 by flyingpete
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Thanks guy's for your input B) I won't be using air pressure as the retracts are electric
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21 Oct 2015 11:59 #6634 by FrankRobinson
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Hi GUYS, Just like to point out that any pressurzed vessel used in a public place (with fuel) requires a test cert and must be tested to 21/2 times working pressure first time then 11/2 times every year, you will need some body like me with the paperwork to test these or a outside person which could cost, if its steel every year, copper every 2 years think about it :ohmy:

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21 Oct 2015 14:39 #6639 by ronp849
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Hi Frank
So it looks like scratch the pressurised Jerry-can idea then!!

BTW - What constitutes a 'pressurised vessel'. Would that include the 'pressurised fuel tank on most if not all glow powered models? :whistle: :silly:

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21 Oct 2015 19:26 #6649 by FrankRobinson
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Hi Ron your on board fuel tank is open through the exhaust fitting so any over pressure would escape through that, also the areas and volume are very small a jerry can a bit larger, a coca cola can can stand well over 100psi (8bar) to the young ones but the shape becomes differant :silly:

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