New 50E F3A

Wasn't suggesting the F3a one is better in any way, just giving you options. The main thing is just practice one of them, as Chris said it will improve your flying far more than just doing random attempts at manouvers.

This should help you with reading your IMAC electrical circuit

PhilF51 wrote: Twin wings been around a fair while

A shame that they never came up with a word to describe twin wing planes

Chris, if you want to bring the schedule with you next time, I am more than happy to help

I did like my Miss Wind, did my B cert with it..... Nothing quite compared to the Angel S for me though.
Be interesting to try this Wind with the additional wing.

Chris, they're right about practicing something! Does help otherwise you only ever do what you're comfortable doing!

Hi Dave,

Not seen you in a while, Jon was lamenting your need to stay in for the plasterer on Saturday.

I had 'the chat' from both Jon and Chris on Saturday, Jon said nice things that gave me a warm fuzzy glow like, "stop pointing it aimlessly at the sky" Which I thought was rich coming from someone who is often trying to fly his plane like a helicopter. Chris was uncharacteristically blunt :woohoo:

But I got the 'subtle' hint

It seems these duo winged planes are the current trend in F3a.

Gromit gave me permission to divert from topic writing:

So being the originator of this thread and assuming no more authority than my station in life deserves, I doff my cap to you sir and request you post your comment.

Thanks for the offer Chris but it was going to be about biplanes, and typical of my nit-picking style, so I've decided to let it rest for now. I'll keep your kind consent handy to use on a more propitious occasion.

Rise to the challenge Grom'
There is an F3A competition at Beaulieu later this year and they are always very welcoming of newbies and you won't be embarrased whatever you do. I would however suggest you go for the 'intermediate' (or 'indeterminate' in my case) as the basic schedule would bore you.
I will be learning it one bit at a time and adding polish with Jason's help and usually some guidance from Jon/Mitch and maybe now Chris73. I suggest that this would suit you better than IMAC as your models are not IMAC compliant but totally F3A suited.
You will find that once you have mastered the basic manouvres the main skill is stiching them together and keeping the model in the vertical plane which requires learning subtle rudder control.
As the other guys said, your pleasure flying will improve enormously once you master a schedule.

I've watched this thread and the contents have made me smile. Its nice to know that fellow fliers can be rude to each other, but never come to blows or end up bad friends. Aerobatics is(are?) a skill that has eluded me, so much so I downloaded a book called "Mastering Radio Controlled Flight", bit of an overkill, all I want to do is the fairly simple aeros needed for the BMFA B test. The book goes way beyond anything I could possibly achieve, but it has proved useful. It has comprehensive instructions for trimming, even has diagrams of the stick positions during manoeuvres, finally the book ends with all the gen on Aresti diagrams.
My copy is home made, printed on A4 paper. If anyone would like it, let me know and I'll bring it to the field.
Keep the banter going!

GBR/CAA F3A Manoeuvre Descriptions
Intermediate Schedule



I-01 Take-off Sequence
I-02 Triangular Loop (Base at the bottom):
From upright on the baseline pass centre and pull through a 3/8 loop into a 45° up line. Pull through a ¼ loop positioned on the centre line into a 45° down line. Pull through a 3/8 loop to exit upright at baseline height.
I-03 Stall Turn, Full Roll Up:
From upright on the baseline pull through a ¼ loop into a vertical up line, perform a full roll, followed by a stall turn into a vertical down line. Pull through a ¼ loop to exit upright.
I-04 Four Point Roll:
From upright, perform 4 consecutive ¼ rolls, exit upright.
I-05 Immelmann Turn with Half Roll:
From upright pull into a half loop and immediately perform a half roll to exit upright.
I-06 Square Loop with ½ Rolls in legs 1 and 3:
From upright on the top line pass centre and push through a ¼ loop into a vertical down line. Perform a half roll centred on the vertical down line. Pull through a ¼ loop to upright on the baseline and fly past centre and pull through a ¼ loop to a vertical up line. Perform a half roll centred on the vertical up line. Push through a ¼ loop to exit upright on the top line.
I-07 Split S Full Roll, Exit Inverted:
From upright on the top line perform a full roll immediately followed by half an outside loop to exit inverted on the baseline.
Judging notes.
I-08 Cuban Eight with Half Rolls, Exit Inverted:
From inverted on the baseline fly past centre and push through 5/8 of an outside loop into a 45° down line. Perform a half roll in the centre of the 45° down line. Push through ¾ of an outside loop into a 45° down line. Perform a half roll in the centre of the 45° down line. Push through a 1/8 loop to exit inverted on the baseline.
I-09 Humpty Bump Push, Pull, Pull:
From inverted on the baseline push through a ¼ loop into a vertical up line. At the top of the vertical up line pull through a half inside loop into a vertical down line. At the bottom of the down line, pull through a ¼ loop to exit upright on the baseline.
I-10 Figure S:
From upright on the baseline on centre pull through half an inside loop and immediately push into half an outside loop to exit upright on the top line.
I-11 Figure 6, Half roll down:
From upright on the top line, push into a vertical down line. Perform a half roll centred on the vertical down line. At the bottom of the down line, push through ¾ of an outside loop to exit upright at mid height.
I-12 Knife Edge, Exit Inverted:
From upright at mid height before centre perform a ¼ roll (either direction) into knife edge. Past centre perform a ¼ roll to exit inverted at mid height.
I-13 Half Loop:
From inverted at mid height, push through half a loop to exit upright on the top line.
I-14 Three Turn Spin:
From upright on the top line, on the centre line of the box perform three consecutive spins followed by a vertical down line. At bottom of vertical down line, pull through a ¼ loop followed by a well-defined, straight line to exit upright on the baseline.
I-15 Landing Sequence