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20 Mar 2022 18:53 - 20 Mar 2022 18:55 #25718 by Brian
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Over the past weeks, I've spent some time on the Prusa printer. The blockage caused when printing wood filled resin caused more problems than I thought. Poking the nozzle with a needle produced a puff of smoke and a black blob of molten resin that narrowly missed my fingers. Nothing improved the situation and I had to strip the print head and clean and re-assemble it.
The last prints I made of an aeroplane were made for the Eclipson Model T, I wasn't impressed by the quality and I didn't know what to do to improve it. Took the easy way out and abandoned the project.
Then in November 2021 I found a glider called Riser on the PlanePrint website. The video of the model in flight was quite encouraging, and being easily persuaded, as well as a bit soft in the head, I bought the programs for printing the model. Over the last few days I've spent a few hours re-calibrating and generally setting up my printer. The trial prints were OK, and I went on to work on the Wingtest program recommended by PlanePrint, this is in the form of a small airfoil section, and the general idea is to tweak the printer's settings until a perfect print is made. Sounds easy, but it took a few hours to get it right.
Having a new spool of lightweight PLA resin, and a working 3D printer, I started to print a part for the Riser glider. That was yesterday. The print failed after three hours. Today I modified the program slightly and the first printed piece of wing finished printing at three this afternoon. I was quite pleased with the result until I weighed it. The manual says "68grams", my part weighed just over 100 grams.
Obviously I have missed something between downloading the STL files and generating the G-Codes from them. I only downloaded the build manual today, lots of A4 sheets to peer at, perhaps the clue will be in there...somewhere?
The photo shows the wing part three hours into the print.
Last edit: 20 Mar 2022 18:55 by Brian. Reason: Comment on photo added.

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21 Mar 2022 09:19 - 21 Mar 2022 09:20 #25719 by kevinross
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Hi Brian
At the last C&Dmfc meeting i attended (pre Covid) there were a couple of members exploiting 3D printing with good success and displayed several good examples including a nice Mustang.
Would you like me to try and put you in contact with these guys with view to reducing your R & D ?

Kevin
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22 Mar 2022 08:36 #25720 by Brian
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There are so many things to go wrong with a 3D print, I stopped everything and reviewed the programs again. I repeated the setup tests, I reprinted the test pieces. This morning it dawned on me that I had used up so much filament that I couldn't finish the prints for the wings. Normally, the PLA filament comes on a 1Kg spool, however, light weight PLA tends to be sold in 500Gram spools. Lightweight PLA foams up when it exits the print nozzle, in fact it almost doubles in size. Hence, in theory, you get the same amount of print output from 500Grams of lightweight PLA as you would from 1Kg of standard PLA. The filament I'm using comes from Germany, and I've found that it isn't practical to use filaments from different manufacturers in a multi part assembly like a wing. Guess I'll have to be patient until sometime next week. Still, I've got the Moonglow project to get on with, and working with balsa is relaxing and very satisfying.

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24 Mar 2022 18:39 #25730 by Brian
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I have at last found part of the cause of the problem I've been having with printing lightweight PLA parts. The downloaded files for printing the model insisted that the various parameters set out for the printer settings must be used. Right! Finally, I did the unthinkable and read the manual. Its a very comprehensive document, details every part and the print parameters. The flow rate I was using was 100%, the manual stated 60%. The temperature I was using was 215°C, the manual stated 250°C, so the resin wasn't hot enough to foam up properly. At last, with the flow rate and temperature suitably adjusted, the parts started to print at the recommended weights.

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24 Mar 2022 19:21 #25731 by Brian
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Here's a wing tip being printed in Light Weight PLA from 3DLabPrint, as a buyer of their designs, I was offered a discount and free postage on two 1Kg spools of their new filament, couldn't resist the offer, the price was less for 2Kg than a certain German company was asking for two 500gram spools. The wing tip is being printed to see if it will be compatible with wing parts made with PLA from a different manufacturer. So far the results look promising, the matt and slightly fuzzy surface of the print is pretty much the same as previously printed parts from other filaments. The test will be whether the parts fit together. Exciting stuff, better go and sit down for a while.

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29 Mar 2022 21:18 - 29 Mar 2022 21:20 #25738 by Brian
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Over the past few days I've discovered a hidden benefit in 3D printed models, for an assortment of reasons I haven't been able to get on with the Moonglow build, so doing a spot of 3D printing more or less made up for it. Fortunately I've just enough spare time to be able to load up the printer and leave it to weave its magic. The current project is back underway since the new spool of PLA arrived, the wing panels take around six hours to print, this means a visit to the shed first thing in the morning, followed by a second visit just after lunch. Seems almost illegal to be able to produce wing panels by simply pressing the "GO" button. Right now I'm like a little boy at Christmas, I had an email today saying that the balsa I ordered for the Moonglow is coming tomorrow. It would have been delivered sooner if I had checked rather more carefully what materials were needed.
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18 Jul 2022 21:52 #26019 by Brian
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The recent heatwave has brought a whole new bunch of problems. The extruder motor, it sits right above the "Hot Bit" of the extruder, became overheated, what happened was that the filament was softened by the high temperature, instead of sliding neatly down the guide tube, it wrapped itself around the drive gears, and tucked itself into any space it could find. I had to dismantle the extruder in order to clear the jam. This had a "knock on" effect as rebuilding the extruder meant that the Z axis had to be recalibrated. This took a couple of hours, fortunately the printer carried on working after the rebuild, and the current print of a Piper Cub J3 with floats was resumed. I managed to keep the printer working, by putting a fan salvaged from an old power supply, close to the extruder. This kept things working, and no jams happened. I checked the Prusa website for extruder motor cooling mods, and found one! The mod is a cowl that fits over the motor, takes a 40mm fan, and costs less than £20 including postage. Should get the bits before the weekend.

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19 Jul 2022 10:56 #26020 by Phil Ford
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Brian, you could have used an edf to blow over the extruder. :lol: EDFs have other further uses like assisting with getting a charcoal BBQ going quicker. If you had been a Scale Day you would've see a live demonstration. ;)
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26 Jul 2022 16:11 #26040 by Brian
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Recently I had the 3DPrintLabs "Joker" up for sale. There wasn't much interest shown and today I removed all the hardware. Good thing that the model didn't sell. While holding the fuselage quite gently as I took out the elevator and rudder servos, the front of the fuselage started to crack. Further squeezing along the fuselage produced more cracks. The material used for the 3D print was a "bargain" from China. The wings and tail, which were printed from a different filament produced in the EU, were as strong as the day they were printed. Fortunately that was the only model I printed "on the cheap". Now its all in the rubbish bin, including the original spool of filament. Could have caused a very unpleasant incident if it had broken up in the air. I've printed a couple of models during my "layoff" from flying, and now before I begin to assemble them, I'm going to print some critical parts and test them for strength.

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27 Jul 2022 19:53 #26042 by Brian
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My bits to modify my printer arrived earlier in the week, I'm pleased to report that they were in a smallish padded envelope, not a bit like Colin's monster box. The downloaded (and free) STL files were sliced and copied to the SD card, the printer did its stuff and within a couple of hours I had a shiny new fan shroud ready to fit. It was a couple of days before I could slot in the hours needed to open up the printer's control box and wire in the leads for the new fan. Its a bit disconcerting when the control box door swings open and all the wires make a bid for freedom. Fortunately nothing fell off and nothing broke or got hopelessly entangled in something else. Fortunately the lead for the new fan was the correct length, and with small modification to the connector, plugged in to the main board without any fuss at all. The most awkward job was taming the bunch of assorted wires that connect the extruder head to the control board. I cheated a bit and used some masking tape as a temporary hold until the flexible sleeve could be refitted. The whole job including recalibrating the printer took around five hours. No chocolate biscuits came to any harm during this time, only because I forgot that the Boss had popped them in the fridge during the recent hot spell.
I've done a couple of "push/pull/squeeze/twist tests on a couple of newly printed parts. So far nothing has succumbed to the abuse. I wonder if its an age related fault that affected the Joker's fuselage, that and being in unfriendly environment. In a shed with no insulation, temperatures do tend to be at each end of the scale, and everything is more or less permanently damp. Although the flying surfaces were all OK. I think it must be the poor quality of the filament that caused the failures.

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